Comments on: Pigeon lung http://www.pigeonmania.com/pigeon-lung/ The racing pigeons encyclopedia: articles, videos, interviews, pictures, fun! Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:47:08 -0800 hourly 1 By: Andrei http://www.pigeonmania.com/pigeon-lung/#comment-4856 Andrei Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:35:07 +0000 http://www.pigeonmania.com/?p=167#comment-4856 Hi Mohammad, only few people have problems with pigeon dust and need high exposure. It's good to think about your daughter, anyway. To be totally safe and sure, I would just teach the pigeons to eat outside the loft in the garden, and so your daughter can enjoy feeding them without any dust exposure. Pigeon dust is a problem only in closed rooms. Hi Mohammad, only few people have problems with pigeon dust and need high exposure. It’s good to think about your daughter, anyway.

To be totally safe and sure, I would just teach the pigeons to eat outside the loft in the garden, and so your daughter can enjoy feeding them without any dust exposure. Pigeon dust is a problem only in closed rooms.

]]> By: Mohammad http://www.pigeonmania.com/pigeon-lung/#comment-4850 Mohammad Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:18:21 +0000 http://www.pigeonmania.com/?p=167#comment-4850 Hi All, Thanks for the site and your informaiton. about 30 years ago I started to keep pegions as pet. For the first 5 or six years I had about 50 of them in a normal room on the older side of the parents house. I easily spent about 2 or more hours daily in that room. Then the finishing high school and moving to different places I gave up the hobby for about 20 years. Now, it is been about 5 years that I have my pets flying around my house in Perth. I've never had any health problem as far as I know. I have a lovely 17 month old daughter that she loves the birds. She can't wait to jion me to feed the birs. By knowing and reading all about the pegion lung, I am concernd that migh be dangerous daily practice to my daughter. I don't know what to do with the situation. She realy loves the birds and feeding them. On the other hand I absoloutely don't want to couse any health problem to my lovely daughter. Any advice will be appreciated. Mohammad Hi All,
Thanks for the site and your informaiton.
about 30 years ago I started to keep pegions as pet. For the first 5 or six years I had about 50 of them in a normal room on the older side of the parents house. I easily spent about 2 or more hours daily in that room. Then the finishing high school and moving to different places I gave up the hobby for about 20 years. Now, it is been about 5 years that I have my pets flying around my house in Perth.
I’ve never had any health problem as far as I know. I have a lovely 17 month old daughter that she loves the birds. She can’t wait to jion me to feed the birs. By knowing and reading all about the pegion lung, I am concernd that migh be dangerous daily practice to my daughter.
I don’t know what to do with the situation. She realy loves the birds and feeding them. On the other hand I absoloutely don’t want to couse any health problem to my lovely daughter.
Any advice will be appreciated.
Mohammad

]]> By: Andrei http://www.pigeonmania.com/pigeon-lung/#comment-4592 Andrei Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:12:08 +0000 http://www.pigeonmania.com/?p=167#comment-4592 Hi Gary, I wouldn't wait to see how bad it can be. :) I heard about some really bad cases but I don't want to think about them, I just try to find the right solution to still keep birds and be safe. Just make regular visits to the doctor to check the lungs and also send blood samples to the guys at pigeon-lung.co.uk to see the level of sensitivity. As long as it is pretty low, you are safe and it means the current mask/method works. If not, additional measures must be found. They can tell you. I know that ignoring the problem can produce irreversible lung problems and we must avoid that. I had a cough every morning and it disappeared after using a good mask. When the filter expired I was stupid enough to forget changing it and it was bad again. Now I really miss my pigeons, life really sux without them, I hope to restart soon. I even plan to feed them outside and enter the loft only for banding chicks and catching them for races, once a week. (because I kinda hate that mask although it makes me look better hehe) Indeed, dampness affects birds, but also, dry floors produce a great amount of dust. People use extractor fans but I don't know how good they are. A wired floor would guarantee zero dust I think (see my drawings above in the article). Do you think that would work? How many wired walls does your loft have? Mine had a wired front and 50% of a side wall, but it wasn't enough. Hi Gary,

I wouldn’t wait to see how bad it can be. :) I heard about some really bad cases but I don’t want to think about them, I just try to find the right solution to still keep birds and be safe.

Just make regular visits to the doctor to check the lungs and also send blood samples to the guys at pigeon-lung.co.uk to see the level of sensitivity. As long as it is pretty low, you are safe and it means the current mask/method works. If not, additional measures must be found. They can tell you. I know that ignoring the problem can produce irreversible lung problems and we must avoid that.

I had a cough every morning and it disappeared after using a good mask. When the filter expired I was stupid enough to forget changing it and it was bad again. Now I really miss my pigeons, life really sux without them, I hope to restart soon. I even plan to feed them outside and enter the loft only for banding chicks and catching them for races, once a week. (because I kinda hate that mask although it makes me look better hehe)

Indeed, dampness affects birds, but also, dry floors produce a great amount of dust.

People use extractor fans but I don’t know how good they are. A wired floor would guarantee zero dust I think (see my drawings above in the article). Do you think that would work?

How many wired walls does your loft have? Mine had a wired front and 50% of a side wall, but it wasn’t enough.

]]> By: gary cook http://www.pigeonmania.com/pigeon-lung/#comment-4591 gary cook Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:22:40 +0000 http://www.pigeonmania.com/?p=167#comment-4591 hi andrei, What do you think would happen if i carried on with pigeons and didnt find out if i had pigeon lung and just stayed away from them in the winter. In this way you can keep your hobby stay resonable well and hopefully win some races haha ?? Do you think pigeon lung could be enoug to kill you ? i think also extractor fans are good for keeping fresh air in the loft rather than cold dust air staying in the loft. the key thing is to have fresh air cumin in taking dust and pigeon smell with it . note that i think lofts must b bone dry as i think dampness affects your lungs and your birds .. gary hi andrei,
What do you think would happen if i carried on with pigeons and didnt find out if i had pigeon lung and just stayed away from them in the winter. In this way you can keep your hobby stay resonable well and hopefully win some races haha ?? Do you think pigeon lung could be enoug to kill you ? i think also extractor fans are good for keeping fresh air in the loft rather than cold dust air staying in the loft. the key thing is to have fresh air cumin in taking dust and pigeon smell with it . note that i think lofts must b bone dry as i think dampness affects your lungs and your birds ..

gary

]]> By: Andrei http://www.pigeonmania.com/pigeon-lung/#comment-4543 Andrei Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:48:46 +0000 http://www.pigeonmania.com/?p=167#comment-4543 Hi Gary. Indeed, mine was much worse in winter too. As long as your mask and clothes changing keep you fine, it's perfect. But I would go to the doctor at the first sign, if that happens again. Also you might want to try to send a blood sample to the guys at pigeonlung.co.uk to see your current level of sensitivity. It's a scale from 0 to 100 or so. It would be VERY interesting to learn if our levels of sensitivity are worse in winter, based on clear blood test results. I suspect it has something to do with vitamin D which controls immunity. Vitamin D is much lower in winter because of the low sun exposure (they say sun exposure generates vitamin D in our skin). Crazy immunity might be the root of our problem, since our bodies attack particles that in fact aren't dangerous for our body (pigeon protein from the dust). In fact I have pollen allergy too, which is based on the same wrong reaction of the body to a harmless particle. If a link is discovered, we would fix the problem by correcting our vitamin D level, but doctors should study this in great detail first. Do they? Don't know. Unfortunately, there are few to no new articles on pigeon lung. All they know is: avoid pigeons, bye. I hate this. Keep the news coming! Thanks Hi Gary. Indeed, mine was much worse in winter too.

As long as your mask and clothes changing keep you fine, it’s perfect. But I would go to the doctor at the first sign, if that happens again. Also you might want to try to send a blood sample to the guys at pigeonlung.co.uk to see your current level of sensitivity. It’s a scale from 0 to 100 or so.

It would be VERY interesting to learn if our levels of sensitivity are worse in winter, based on clear blood test results.

I suspect it has something to do with vitamin D which controls immunity. Vitamin D is much lower in winter because of the low sun exposure (they say sun exposure generates vitamin D in our skin). Crazy immunity might be the root of our problem, since our bodies attack particles that in fact aren’t dangerous for our body (pigeon protein from the dust). In fact I have pollen allergy too, which is based on the same wrong reaction of the body to a harmless particle. If a link is discovered, we would fix the problem by correcting our vitamin D level, but doctors should study this in great detail first. Do they? Don’t know. Unfortunately, there are few to no new articles on pigeon lung. All they know is: avoid pigeons, bye. I hate this.

Keep the news coming! Thanks

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