8 youngsters from 1 pair – case study #1
February 7th, 2009 • Breeding • 745 viewsBeing a fan of Alan Wheeldon‘s articles, I started to apply his advices in my own loft. This case study, inspired from his article “Breeding Winners“, comes to show 8 youngsters bred from the same couple, in several months this year (of course, one round of eggs were adopted by another pair, to speed up the young birds production).
I made 5 videos, 1 with the breeding pair and 4 with the 4 nests of youngsters. I am sorry that my idea came too late, I should have filmed all the babies at the same age, before moulting of the first 4, in order to see the phenotype differences better. Anyway, here we go:
Breeding pair: schalie female(2005) + black male(2006)
Stock female. The male happens to be the best middle distance pigeon in my loft in 2007 (@330 km: 1 / 1107 pigeons, 2 / 306 pigeons, natural, always on 2 nest youngsters, eggs or driving the hen).
Nest #1: chequer males, the nervous one has mother’s phenotype and personality, the other follows his father. They both have pretty well balanced bodies…the basket will tell the rest.
Nest #2: black males, the smaller one is the best from the 8 I think; it has the most balanced body, soft feathers and a winner behavior inside or outside the loft; the bigger, longer one, with a white feather, is pretty bored, not very balanced, and spent some time away from the loft on another house with neighbor’s pigeons in childhood! – and I hate that; and the most important aspect, the first flies like a butterfly, and the second like a pelican, LOL. The smaller one that I like has father’s phenotype, and the other…I don’t know!
Nest #3: black and blue youngsters, don’t know their sexes yet. Same story, the black shorter one isn’t very balanced, too hard feathers, the blue is nicely balanced and flies like a butterfly(I’d say he’s the 2nd in my top). Both have father’s phenotype (look at the head for example).
Nest #4: black and blue youngsters, with the black having mother’s phenotype(very easy to see) and the blue having father’s phenotype. Don’t know about the rest, they have just got out of the loft a few days ago, with the blue one spending a day away, like they usually do when they are taken up by the flock.


7-02-2009
Andrei:
Well, after the really hard race where all the fanciers lost a lot of birds, I am able to tell which of these youngsters remained with me for the winter. By the way, only 6 of them were sent. The last batch were too young.
And the winners are… chequer male from nest #1, the nervous one, and the black short female from nest #3 (she’s a surprise because as I was saying above in the article, I didn’t really like her).
7-02-2009
Gamaliel Salen:
Very nice experiment from a pair of pigeons. I’ll try that soon. Good luck to your racing career and Godbless you and your pigeons.
7-02-2009
jimm:
wow!
good experiment!
can i ask question about the experiment?
my question is, is breeding a pair of pigeon successively not good? please give me some advices because i am just starting in racing pigeon.
thank you and more powers to your pigeons,
7-02-2009
Andrei:
Hi Jimm, I don’t really understand what you mean – if you mean if it is ok to breed from a pair more series of babies per year, it is ok. I moved some of the eggs just to speed up the experiment and force them to lay eggs again and again. However, the femal shouldn’t be forced at eggs very much – let her sit on eggs about 10 days before you move them and force her to start a new nest.
3-10-2009
jester:
im new in this kind of sports, can u teach me sir how to condition my birdz?what are the basic conditoning? pls help me
3-10-2009
Andrei:
Hi Jester, please use the contact and ask me by email more specific questions and I will try to answer: http://www.pigeonmania.com/contact
I’ll delete this later from here since it is offtopic. Thanks.
15-06-2010
jojo:
conditioning the birds is very important,but there’s a lot of different system that fanciers follow.
but the most important is make sure that the birds are healthy when you send them to race,well motivated to come home,full and bouyant